{"id":2498,"date":"2014-11-16T02:20:31","date_gmt":"2014-11-16T10:20:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=2498"},"modified":"2021-05-22T03:49:39","modified_gmt":"2021-05-22T10:49:39","slug":"notebook-on-cities-and-cultures-korea-tour-sonic-bibimbap-with-bernie-cho","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=2498","title":{"rendered":"Notebook on Cities and Culture&#8217;s Korea Tour: Sonic Bibimbap with Bernie Cho"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-2501 size-full\" style=\"border: 0;\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/berniecho.jpg\" alt=\"berniecho\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/berniecho.jpg 300w, http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/berniecho-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>Notebook on Cities and Culture<em>&#8216;s Korea Tour is brought to you by Daniel Murphy, David Hayes, and <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.polarinertia.com\/\">The Polar Intertia Journal<\/a><em>, an outlet for artists and researchers documenting the urban condition.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In Seoul&#8217;s Garosu-gil, Colin Marshall talks with Korean music industry expert Bernie Cho, president of DFSB Kollective, a creative agency that provides digital media, marketing, and distribution services to Korean pop music artists. They discuss why the world now knows what K-pop is; how Korean youth culture, pop culture, and digital culture have become one in the same; Psy as outlier and representative of K-pop, &#8220;the bad boy who became the golden boy,&#8221; who put a dent in the industry&#8217;s pursuit of perfection; how &#8220;made in Korea&#8221; can work, internationally, as a label; whether the concept of &#8220;crazy Korea,&#8221; like &#8220;weird Japan,&#8221; has any traction; the big technological differences between the time of the 1990s J-pop boom and the modern K-pop boom; the musician&#8217;s perceived need to break out of Korea for success; how, growing up in the United States, he became aware of Korean popular culture; his disenchantment with the &#8220;boo-hoo session&#8221; of Asian American studies; the accidental meeting that got him into music television; what he discovered in Seoul&#8217;s Hongdae neighborhood; the Korean government&#8217;s investment in internet technology, and the digital and cultural revolution that followed; why Korean pop artists have, in the recent past, made so little money; the use of music not as a business, but as a business card; Korea&#8217;s other DMZ: the closed-garden &#8220;digital media zone&#8221; of Korea-only technology; how he first saw the seemingly wholly under-construction Seoul almost twenty years ago; how the vibe of the 2002 World Cup has carried over into the present; what Los Angeles and Seoul have to learn from each other; how his advantage in coming from America has gone away; how K-pop has become &#8220;sonic bibimbap,&#8221; uniquely Korean in its mixture of various ingredients; what Koreanness internationally-marketed Korean music retains; his &#8220;What am I even doing?&#8221; moment on a flight from Los Angeles to Seoul; why the origin of the word &#8220;piracy&#8221; reveals it as a good thing, and how it sparked the British Invasion; what he makes of the return of the 1960s and 70s &#8220;golden age&#8221; of Korean pop and R&amp;B; and why he tells artists they shouldn&#8217;t do everything in English (and why he plays them Sigur R\u00f3s).<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/177117651&amp;color=ff5500&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Download the interview\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/colin-marshall-26\/notebook-on-cities-and-cultures-korea-tour-sonic-bibimbap-with-bernie-cho\">on Soundcloud<\/a>\u00a0above,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/colinmarshall\/NCC_Korea_Tour_Bernie_Cho.output.mp3\">here as an MP3<\/a>,<span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0or on\u00a0<\/span><a style=\"color: #555555;\" href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/notebook-on-cities-culture\/id266539442\">iTunes<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Notebook on Cities and Culture&#8216;s Korea Tour is brought to you by Daniel Murphy, David Hayes, and The Polar Intertia Journal, an outlet for artists and researchers documenting the urban condition. 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