{"id":3908,"date":"2017-03-17T07:03:22","date_gmt":"2017-03-17T14:03:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=3908"},"modified":"2017-03-17T07:17:22","modified_gmt":"2017-03-17T14:17:22","slug":"from-my-interview-archive-consummate-los-angeles-man-of-letters-david-l-ulin-2008-2011-2012-2015","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=3908","title":{"rendered":"From my interview archive: consummate Los Angeles man of letters David L. Ulin (2008, 2011, 2012, 2015)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3909\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/FTA-David-Ulin.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em>This year, I&#8217;m listening again\u00a0to\u00a0selections from the archive of long-form interviews I conducted on the public radio program\u00a0<\/em>The Marketplace of Ideas<em> and podcast\u00a0<\/em>Notebook on Cities and Culture\u00a0<em>between 2007 and 2015.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I took the path I took, such as it is, in large part because of book reviews \u2014 not articles that review books,\u00a0but the standalone newspaper book-review sections containing them. Remember those? The\u00a0<em>New York Times Book Review<\/em> still exists, of course, and I&#8217;ve even subscribed specifically to it now and again, but I drew more formative influence from the\u00a0<em>Los Angeles Times Book Review<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Something about the combination of a smartly curated selection of book-related articles unified\u00a0by tasteful\u00a0graphic and layout design fired me up, especially from a paper based in a\u00a0city that so fascinated me, and the content\u00a0introduced me to a fair few of the topics I&#8217;ve pursued ever since.\u00a0It first caught my attention under the editorship of Steve Wasserman, who got the boot (or he gave it the boot, or he gave himself the boot, I don&#8217;t really know) in 2005 and a couple years later published <a href=\"http:\/\/archives.cjr.org\/cover_story\/goodbye_to_all_that_1.php\">a 10,000-word\u00a0<em>Columbia Journalism Review<\/em>\u00a0essay about the decline of book reviewing<\/a> that I printed out (like most book review-lovers, I wasn&#8217;t an early adopter of the smartphone) and obsessively read and re-read.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Shortly thereafter I launched\u00a0<em>The Marketplace of Ideas<\/em> on KCSB-FM, an interview show but also a forum for talk on some of the topics I&#8217;d started to get interested in through book reviews: economics, philosophy, evolutionary psychology, wine, Los Angeles, even book reviewing itself. At that point I had more experience writing than interviewing, so in order to keep my hand in that game I sent some samples out to Wasserman&#8217;s replacement, a certain David L. Ulin. If memory serves, I bugged him more directly a few times afterward until\u00a0he shut me right down, which wasn&#8217;t as bad as it sounds but almost always\u00a0results in my declaring the shutter-down, however influential, officially dead to me on principle.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">But I didn&#8217;t do that this time, possibly because I sensed something of a kindred spirit behind the rejection. Instead I invited him on my new show for a talk about books, book reviewing, book-review editing, Los Angeles (David had at that point edited a couple anthologies of the city&#8217;s writing and written a book on the highly Angelenous topic of earthquake prediction), and so on. The<em> Times<\/em>\u00a0shut down the<em>\u00a0Book Review<\/em>\u00a0the very next year, which might explain some of my lack of success in writing for it. (The positive spin held that it would make the paper&#8217;s book coverage more relevant by bringing it out of its pull-out isolation, but I don&#8217;t know anyone who didn&#8217;t consider it a loss.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Even post-<em>Book Review<\/em>, I found reasons to keep\u00a0interviewing David: not only did we record a couple of\u00a0conversations before I moved from Santa Barbara to Los Angeles, we talked again on my podcast\u00a0<em>Notebook on Cities and Culture<\/em>\u00a0right after I moved, and again on the\u00a0<em>Los Angeles Review of Books<\/em> podcast (about <em>Sidewalking<\/em>, his Los Angeles book we&#8217;d all been waiting for) right before I took off for Seoul. He now stands as the individual I&#8217;ve interviewed the most times, unlikely\u00a0to be surpassed any time soon. And though I live on the other side of the Pacific Ocean at the moment, I&#8217;m not done with Los Angeles \u2014 I&#8217;ve barely even started with Los Angeles \u2014 and so, even from this distance, I keep as close an eye on David&#8217;s work as ever.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/colinmarshall\/MOI_David_Ulin.mp3?dest-id=14547\">Download David L. Ulin on\u00a0<em>The Marketplace of Ideas\u00a0<\/em>(1\/12\/08)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/colinmarshall\/MOI_David_Ulin_2.mp3?dest-id=14547\">Download David L. Ulin on\u00a0<em>The Marketplace of Ideas\u00a0<\/em>(1\/9\/11)<\/a>\u00a0[<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/staying-literarily-immersed-book-critic-david-l-ulin\/id266539442?i=1000127054495&amp;mt=2\">iTunes link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/colinmarshall\/NCC_S1E2_David_L_Ulin.mp3?dest-id=14547\">Download David L. Ulin on\u00a0<em>Notebook on Cities and Culture<\/em> (2\/17\/12)<\/a>\u00a0[<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/s1e2-graduate-education-with-david-l-ulin\/id266539442?i=1000110635990&amp;mt=2\">iTunes link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/av\/podcast-90-david-l-ulin\/\">Download David L. Ulin on the\u00a0<em>Los Angeles Review of Books\u00a0<\/em>podcast (1\/19\/16)<\/a>\u00a0[<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/david-l-ulin\/id493864450?i=1000360955317&amp;mt=2\">iTunes link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This year, I&#8217;m listening again\u00a0to\u00a0selections from the archive of long-form interviews I conducted on the public radio program\u00a0The Marketplace of Ideas and podcast\u00a0Notebook on Cities and Culture\u00a0between 2007 and 2015. 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