{"id":3954,"date":"2017-04-03T18:57:44","date_gmt":"2017-04-04T01:57:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=3954"},"modified":"2017-04-03T19:02:48","modified_gmt":"2017-04-04T02:02:48","slug":"from-my-interview-archive-comic-artist-peter-bagge-creator-of-hate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=3954","title":{"rendered":"From my interview archive: comic artist Peter Bagge, creator of Hate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-3956\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/FTA-Peter-Bagge-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"741\" srcset=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/FTA-Peter-Bagge-1.jpg 738w, http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/FTA-Peter-Bagge-1-243x300.jpg 243w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>This year, I&#8217;m listening again\u00a0to\u00a0selections from the archive of long-form interviews I conducted on the public radio program\u00a0<\/em>The Marketplace of Ideas<em> and podcast\u00a0<\/em>Notebook on Cities and Culture\u00a0<em>between 2007 and 2015.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>On trips to the library growing up, I&#8217;d make right for the comics section \u2014 around Dewey Decimal 741, if memory serves. The selection didn&#8217;t change often, so I took\u00a0out the same books over and over again: collections of early 20th-century strips like\u00a0<em>Krazy<\/em><em> Kat\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>Popeye<\/em>, which in the bland context of the 1990s seemed almost rebelliously\u00a0eccentric;\u00a0<em>The <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Big_Book_Of\">Big Book of<\/a> Urban Legends<\/em>; plenty of\u00a0<em>Zippy the Pinhead<\/em> anthologies; and more of often than most,\u00a0<em>The Adventures of Junior and Other Losers<\/em> by a certain Peter Bagge. It offered everything I wanted at age eleven or twelve:\u00a0clearly the work of one man alone (then as now, I don&#8217;t spent much time on teams), it had a highly distinctive art style, stories and dialogue that seemed &#8220;real&#8221; (as opposed to the words and deeds of\u00a0funny animals and superheroes), and \u2014 most essential of all \u2014 absolutely nothing in it seemed aimed at, or rather down to, kids.<\/p>\n<p>Only later did I find out that Bagge, a longtime resident of the greater Seattle area where I myself lived, was a\u00a0comic-artist icon \u2014 or at least he&#8217;d long held iconic status in the field of &#8220;alternative\u00a0comics,&#8221; a movement to which Seattle back then represented, or had recently represented, a Mecca. He&#8217;d made his name with the series\u00a0<em>Hate<\/em>, which throughout the 1990s chronicled\u00a0the life of a young slacker (to use the zeitgeist word of the time) named Buddy Bradley as he bounced between cities,\u00a0between scams and\u00a0quasi-legitimate jobs, and between frightening girlfriends and very frightening girlfriends. I first binged on it with\u00a0a phonebook-thick collection of\u00a0<em>Hate<\/em>&#8216;s first few\u00a0years purchased on a weeklong school trip to Ashland for the\u00a0Oregon Shakespeare Festival. The store, More Fun, had a slogan fourteen-year-old me certainly couldn&#8217;t resist: &#8220;Comic books for grownups.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And though my own growing up has in few or no\u00a0ways resembled Buddy&#8217;s, episodes of his thoroughly Gen-Xer life \u2014 some of which I&#8217;ve read through five, ten, fifteen times \u2014 still come vividly to my mind on a near-daily basis. On the way down to California, moving before college (not, for better or for worse, a chapter\u00a0of Buddy&#8217;s still-rigorous education), I stopped in on More Fun again to catch up on\u00a0<em>Hate<\/em>. Around that same time, Bagge began <a href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/people\/peter-bagge\/articles\">contributing, in comics form<\/a>, to\u00a0the libertarian magazine\u00a0<em>Reason<\/em>, a development that delighted me: somehow I felt relieved that he didn&#8217;t hold the Standard Pacific Northwest Liberal suite of political views, even though my own might lean slightly closer to those of the\u00a0SPNL than those of\u00a0<em>Reason<\/em>. And Bagge himself has, over these past fourteen years of <em>Reason\u00a0<\/em>work, revealed himself as hardly an ideologue \u2014\u00a0again to my relief.<\/p>\n<p>Given all <em>Hate\u00a0<\/em>and the rest of\u00a0Bagge&#8217;s oeuvre\u00a0has undeniably\u00a0done to shape my very psyche, I knew I had to find an excuse to talk to him as soon as I got into the interviewing game. The first opportunity came in 2008, when a book about him and his work came out \u2014 not a book\u00a0<em>by<\/em> him, but close enough for me \u2014 and the second came the next year, on the publication of\u00a0his first bound collection\u00a0of\u00a0<em>Reason<\/em> pieces. The third took over half a decade to line up, but it made perfect sense, since I&#8217;d ended\u00a0<em>The Marketplace of Ideas<\/em> and started the more place-oriented\u00a0<em>Notebook on Cities and Culture.\u00a0<\/em>Recording\u00a0another interview with him in Seattle when I next happened to be there, I then used it\u00a0to promote the Kickstarter fund drive for <em>Notebook on Cities and Culture<\/em>&#8216;s\u00a0Seattle-oriented sixth season. In the event, the money came up way short, but I did have what seemed, at least to me, a pretty\u00a0ideal guest with whom to end the show.<\/p>\n<p>EPILOGUE: I went back to\u00a0to More Fun on a <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?page_id=3605\">West Coast road trip<\/a>\u00a0taken between\u00a0ending\u00a0<em>Notebook on Cities and Culture<\/em> and before moving to Seoul. Naturally I stocked up again on Bagge material once again, making the transaction with the very same proprietor who&#8217;s stood behind\u00a0the counter on every single one of my five-ish-yearly visits \u2014 a little grayer than the first time, sure, but then I don&#8217;t exactly look like a teenager anymore myself.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/colinmarshall\/MOI_Peter_Bagge.mp3?dest-id=14547\">Download Peter Bagge on\u00a0<em>The Marketplace of Ideas<\/em><\/a> (3\/7\/2008)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/colinmarshall\/MOI_Peter_Bagge_2.mp3?dest-id=14547\">Download Peter Bagge on\u00a0<em>The Marketplace of Ideas<\/em><\/a> (10\/9\/2009) [<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/comic-artist-and-comic-journalist-peter-bagge\/id266539442?i=1000127054527&amp;mt=2\">iTunes link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.colinmarshall.org\/?p=2908\">Download Peter Bagge on\u00a0<em>Notebook on Cities and<\/em> <em>Culture<\/em><\/a> (4\/7\/2015) [<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/a-year-in-seattle-preview-the-young-cynic-with-peter-bagge\/id266539442?i=1000339477374&amp;mt=2\">iTunes link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This year, I&#8217;m listening again\u00a0to\u00a0selections from the archive of long-form interviews I conducted on the public radio program\u00a0The Marketplace of Ideas and podcast\u00a0Notebook on Cities and Culture\u00a0between 2007 and 2015. On trips to the library growing up, I&#8217;d make right for the comics section \u2014 around Dewey Decimal 741, if memory serves. 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